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Thanks a lot for the reply- appreciated.
Although I have used linux a lot over the years , I am not proficient at the terminal or the coding side.
I am afraid my version of qpwgraph comes from the software app that comes with Pop os
Not sure if that is flatpak or not.?
Being ubuntu based, if I try 'sudo apt install qpwgraph' it cant find the package.
Sorry - have not gone any further :-), but willing to try to see if another version would work.

Really want to keep with pipewire , as this audio set up is great for someone like me who has several sources that are all treated very differently.
For me ,much more flexible than jack or virtual cables on windows.

Thanks again for the reply

pootler