Main menu
You are here
What Linux Dist?
I have been using Redhat products since RH-5, and presently I'm on Fedora Core 6. However, I'm ready for a divorce from Redhat, as I cannot stand their update schedule. Bringing out a new version every 6 months is just ridiculous, and what is worse, anything more then two versions old gets deprecated....hence, no more updates.
I would like to have something that has at least a few years of updates/download support, and I would also prefer to stay with somthing RPM based, as I am most familiar with that. I generally convert all my compiled sources into RPMs at some point.
* I have been looking at Mandriva, and playing around with the LiveCD. It looks great. However, it has managed to lock up on me twice....not a good sign.
* I think OpenSuse is RPM based, but really don't care for Novell, which I believe controls the project. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
* I like Kubuntu, but hate that it's DEB based, and have had many problems with apt-get in earlier FC distrubitions. I also seemed to have problems making Kubuntu work well with my Nvidia card. I don't mind using the Nvidia proprietary drivers, but could not find them for Kubuntu.
What are your preferences for a good Linux Distribution?
Thanks,
Lexridge
Re: What Linux Dist?
My distro of choice is openSUSE, which has survived the Novell buy out, or sort of. I've been a SuSE user since the 7.2 release -- yeah, before you ask, I've bought all the boxed versions since then; maybe skipped one or two of the 8.x ones :) And you ask why? Mainly two words: KDE and ALSA. Yes, SuSE was once the one if not the major sponsor of that couple of greatest open-source projects, that I tend to have as my bed of roses (along with the thorns too:)
Have you looked to PCLinuxOS, and to something radically distinct, Gentoo ?
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
Re: What Linux Dist?
PCLinuxOS is making strides in the audio arena. We now have a rt kernel with all the PCLos goodies included. This has been a long time coming and should accelerate PCLOS based audio projects. See www.rocxshop.com for one and PCLOS Producer Edition at www.mypclinuxos.com for another.
BTW - Thanks RNC for the wonderful apps! I'm the founder of RocXshoP and current maintainer for Qtractor (among a few others) at PCLOS and your stuff is a pleasure to work and play with!
Re: PCLinuxOS & RocXshoP
Jaaxx,
Thanks for the support. I'll have to admit that I only had a couple of trials with PCLinuxOS a few months ago. I once used Mandrake (now née Mandriva) which I believe it's the PCLOS predecessor. What I praise about it is it's plain user experience orientation and having KDE as the preferred desktop environment, which is always a plus to me ;)
IIRC, what kept me back at the time was a lack of the development environment available OOTB. Setting up one would require a network connection and a reliable package repository, which I couldn't get right then or at least fast enough. I guess that might have changed, for the better now.
Anyway, I am glad that my apps are now build-able and runnable on PCLOS and someone is taking the lead. I recognize that RocXshoP is a very recent offering and for that I just wish you all the success and fun too.
Cheers.
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
openSUSE
How is openSUSE on "non-free" support, such as mp3, mpeg2, wmv, etc. Since Novell actually paid M$ for this stuff, how does this affect openSUSE?
Gentoo may be interesting. I once heard that is what the kernel developers are using.
Thanks,
Lexridge
All the mp players are open
All the mp players are open source they don't use even linux i believe
Search form lista över mhld2017
Re: openSUSE
AFAICS, the "non-free" support you're referring to (mp3, mpeg2, wmv, etc.) are a matter for some patent litigation issues, not necessarily covered by the MSFT-NOVL deal (except, maybe just maybe, wmv). What that means to you is... as US citizen, you are on your own. As I read it, Novell/SUSE, and any other US based distro for that matter, won't supply those products itself in their proper distribution, but it pours on you, the user, the liability to get it somewhere else at your own will, initiative and risk ;)
Ah, but IANAL :)
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
IANAL either :)
....but I'm very familiar with the patent issues. I guess what I was asking more or less was, can I get native "nonfree" packages for a given distribution for mp3, mpeg, bla bla bla without having to build it all? With Fedora, I can get all those non-free packages from Livna.org.
I don't think anyone is going to do anything about a user installing these non-free apps/libs. Until something has been proven in a US court, which nothing has, no Linux user is going to get arrested for it. However, pirating movies and mp3s will most certainly land folks a HEALTHY fine (mostly unfair fines, in many cases). I guess the MPAA/RIAA has more pull than the BSA (Business Software Alliance).
Some developments have come to light though, the courts are finally figuring out they are being used and bullied by the MPAA/RIAA, and are slapping them down by fining them for frivolous lawsuits and wasting the court's time.
Lexridge
Re: openSUSE non-free / non-oss
Just to get it on par, and get my openSUSE cap on, the so-called Community Repositories have all the missing parts that you call non-free (and the rest too). Those repositories are readily accessible from any openSUSE post-installation, through YaST and thus also with the awesome 1-click install feature (which it's really nice, BTW).
For instance, I believe the one-stop solution for your spoken needs are the Packman repository.
By adding these repositories to your list you get all that you might need that isn't in the official shipped openSUSE distribution. There's also these Non-OSS repository where you get access to some commercial/proprietary/closed-source stuff, like flash, areader, etc. And all this under the opensuse.org umbrella, mirroring, and/or build services.
How's that?
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
openSUSE: downloaded
Well, I downloaded the 4gb ISO today (v10.3). Backing off my computer shop machine now. I figure that would be a better machine to try it on, rather than my main home machine. Your words regarding openSUSE are refreshing, and making me less leary of using a Novell product. ;) More on this later.
Thanks,
Lexridge
PS......I love the new copy/move plugin feature in Qtractor's mixer!!! :) Very handy indeed, and a great idea too! ;)
Re: copy/move plugin
I love the new copy/move plugin feature in Qtractor's mixer!!! :) Very handy indeed, and a great idea too! ;)
It was YOUR idea, wasn't it? It is me who should be thankful, and sure that I am :)
Cheers!
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
Re: copy/move plugin secret
Rui!!
I thought that was our little secret..LOL. I wasn't going to tell anyone, but since you did.......oh well :))
The new move/copy is extremely helpful. Especially since we don't have Aux Buses yet. Once that happens, one can just assign the plugin(s) to an Aux bus, and send or route the channel(s) to that, using only one plugin instance (thus saving precious CPU cycles). Until then, this is godsend! :)
So far, I have used it tonight on a project I am working on with three tracks of backing vocals. I wanted the effects on the backing vocals to be the same for each one. It was great to just copy the plugin (with parameters intact) to the other backup vocal tracks. Sure, I could have saved the preset of the plugin and reloaded it on each instance, but this method is a a LOT quicker! :)
BTW, I got everything backed up on my computer shop machine, so Saturday it will get a fresh install of openSUSE 10.3. I'm actually looking forward to something different from Redhat.
Lexridge
Blew away openSUSE
After using openSUSE 10.3 for several weeks, I finally blew it away in favor of Fedora 8. It was a tough decision, as I did like openSUSE, but had some really strange issues with it, that quite frankly were show stoppers for me.
- After the first update using "yast --update". I could never get it to work again without crashing. It would show me a ton of packages to update, then would crash when starting it.
- Yast2 would always only show me one available update, although yast would show me several.
- Never got the "Illegal Instruction" problem when running Qtractor fixed.
- Was never able to get the proprietary Nvidia drivers to work without GLX problems.
Oh well, we'll see how F8 works. I might even blow that away in favor of something else eventually.
Lexridge
Re: Blew away openSUSE
No hard feelings :) I'll keep with opensuse nevertheless. It's been my linux home for a decade already and there's no reason I'll change that.
Hope you can make it with Fedora ...
Cheers.
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
Guys, what is RPM?
Guys, what is RPM?
Re: What is RPM?
RPM (RPM Package Manager) is a popular utility for installing software on Linux (and Unix-like) systems, particularly Red Hat Linux from its inception.
As taken from the rpm.org front page:
What is RPM?
The RPM Package Manager (RPM) is a powerful command line driven package management system capable of installing, uninstalling, verifying, querying, and updating computer software packages. Each software package consists of an archive of files along with information about the package like its version, a description, and the like. There is also a library API, permitting advanced developers to manage such transactions from programming languages such as C or Python.
RPM is free software, released under the GNU GPL.
RPM is a core component of many Linux distributions, such as Red Hat Enterprise Linux, the Fedora Project, SUSE Linux Enterprise, openSUSE, CentOS, Mandriva Linux, and many others. It is also used on many other operating systems as well, and the RPM format is part of the Linux Standard Base.
Cheers.
Nice discussion site folks,
Nice discussion site folks, I'll be sure to return
qtractor-qranger in action!
Hi Rui
here is one demo video Live recorded on Youtube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=63S5PCbR8ro
Video quality record streming is not the max....and also is not possible setting the Line IN volume.
but anyway you can get the idea how the Qranger on mediastation is working.
Cheers
Domenik
Re: qtractor-qranger in action!
Party's ON!
Thanks for sharing. Really good to know about qranger's working out :)
Cheers.
im a newbie for it. thanks
im a newbie for it. thanks for your post.
Use Ubuntu, its great!
Use Ubuntu, its great!
+1 for Archlinux Give it a
+1 for Archlinux
Give it a shot and you won't switch again (:
Archlinux
I have to agree about Archlinux. I find it the perfect compromise between a binary package system like Debian (or Ubuntu/Fedora) and a source distro like Gentoo. It's kind of the best of both worlds, binary packages by default but building from source is really easy. It also leans towards a "rolling release" strategy so it's never out of date. Disclaimer: I provide binary Archlinux packages for qjackctl and qtractor from CVS at Sourceforge :-)
i hate linux
Simply i hate linux. The main reason is that i can' understand it and don't know all the short keys. But i have heard that it has better security than windows and other OS. Is it true??
Many people fear what they don't understand
Linux security is generally better than Windows, out of the box. In other words, by default, most modern linux dists are fairly secure. However, when users get frustrated and do things such as disable their firewall, then all things are equal. I have had a few linux systems hacked into, once because of my own stupidity, the other due to a DNS (bind) flaw that I did not update, even when an update was available.
AFAIK, most hot keys in Linux are the same as other O.Ses. Cut, Copy Paste are good examples, as is F1 for help.
With that said, don't hate something because you don't understand. Just read a bit and try understanding it better. Then perhaps your fears will go away.
Lexridge
I have found interesting
I have found interesting sources and would like to give the benefit of my experience to you.
I am tuning my pc by the best software for free, with the file search engine BecoMon
May be you have your own experience and could give some useful sites too. Because this social site help me much.
Nix fixes dependency- Linux distributions
if you talk about packages from your distributions repositories (packages built for your distribution and release), because the way packagers solve a dependency problem (new version of library not being backwards compatible) is to support both the old and the new version of the library or to patch the software if it's a simple fix. The real problems exists for third party "package" maintainers, a problem LSB tries to solve in a clumsy and short sighted manner. This package manager tries a different approach to the problem. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not going to be happy if UT2K4 stops working because some library version gets kicked for being deprecated. A solution to the problem could be a secondary package manager supporting any possible version of a library.
QT based Distro and Calf Plugins
Hi,
Is there a way I can get an Open Suse distro with all the audio apps and a Lighweight QT based Window Manager (LxQt?) ?
Would it be more compliant with Calf Plugins that keep crashing under Ubuntu Studio? Love Ubuntu Studio but those crashes are ruining my work right now, entire days without music... Are there any LV2 alternatives to Calf by the way?
re. QT based Distro and Calf Plugins
AFAICT
1. there's NONE Linux distro out there that is simply Qt based; what you're probably asking is about the Desktop Environment one distro or another promotes as the default one on install. openSUSE let's you choose KDE as the default DE and in fact has been its historically top option (it used to be Gnome back in the Novell days, but is not (en)forced to new users anymore); of course KDE is based on Qt or better said, it 's "The" one genetically tied to Qt ever since birth and cradle.
Note that you're not here being obliged to KDE whatsoever, although it is the only and the one I use on Linux for two decades now ;)
2. Calf plugins are really going under the heavy pressure all these days; just look at that Ardour spell a course on them.
Most probably, all the CALF issues on Ubuntu Studio that you may experience have nothing to do with or without it being a Qt/DE based distro. It is rather an intricate software level misalignment in your system. There are (more than one) reports that things get solved or work much better with the latest Calf git head, while other's get it all right only after they build (compile) parts or all of the software on their own premises.
As always, YMMV :)
Cheers
Re: QT based Distro and Calf Plugins
Far from what you're asking, but since you love Ubuntu Studio, I'd suggest giving AV Linux a live test run ( http://www.bandshed.net/avlinux/ )
It's Debian based, very well tuned for multimedia production, it includes working Calf Plugins, and it comes with extra goodies not yet in the Debian repos.
As for LV2 plugin suites, I'd recommend the LSP Plugins ( http://lsp-plug.in/ )
Add new comment