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is this the plugins you're referring to? https://kx.studio/Repositories:Plugins#adlplug they do seem pretty cool. Thanks for the recommendation! I'll try them out ASAP. I love simple FM soft synths. Back on Windows i used to use ones I found from here, and even Synth1 vst had a simple FM feature that really spiced up the sound design. Thanks, again for the recommendations. also found https://kx.studio/Repositories:Plugins#whysynth