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Thanks
your solution works.

I use your appimage download rather than fedora's as fedora's package is so out of date.

and I copy the appimage binary to /opt/qtractor/qtractor.

to make the sound cards consistent I already had a modprobe file, so this will make sense.

heres my modprobe file and wrapper script, in case anyone else needs to do this.

[qtractor]# cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
# ALSA portion
#first m-audio
options snd-ice1712 index=0 model=audiophile
#second maudio
options snd-ice1712 index=1 model=audiophile
#X2222 mixer USB
options snd_usb_audio index=2
#ati cards HDMI audio
options snd_hda_intel index=3
#extra two midi through ports
options snd-seq-dummy ports=4

[qtractor]# cat qtractor.sh

#!/bin/sh
aconnect -x
aconnect -l|grep "Connecting To: 16:0" > /dev/null 2>&1

if [ $? -eq 1 ]
then
aconnect 14:0 16:0
fi

aconnect -l|grep "Connecting To: 20:0" > /dev/null 2>&1

if [ $? -eq 1 ]
then
aconnect 14:1 20:0
fi
/opt/qtractor/qtractor

[qtractor]#