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Hi !
I've successfully built Qtractor from SVN today in the hopes to get Windows VST support working (however, this might be a "user error", too). Here are my configure options:

$ ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-vst=~/Source/qtractor-svn/vstsdk2.4/pluginterfaces/vst2.x/ --enable-lilv --enable-suil --enable-lv2-state

The package built and installed successfully. Hehe, it runs, too.

However, I'm not seeing any Windows VST plugins in the plugin browser. I do see "dssi-vst" (twice) but it simply cannot be added to the plugin list. Maybe that is the problem ? Running "vsthost" by itself works just fine (as well using both fst and dssi-vst via "festige".

I guess my question is this: How do I actually add a Windows VST(i) to the channel plugins ?

I've read other posts and I cannot find any suser-j.engelh repository to get kernel-rt. I get this error when I try to start qjackctl:
12:50:18.709 Patchbay deactivated.
12:50:18.714 Statistics reset.
12:50:18.715 Could not open ALSA sequencer as a client. ALSA MIDI patchbay will be not available.
ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: Permission denied
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started

what do I need to do to make it run? I want to hook my keyboard up for recording...

I downloaded the source but how do I get all of its dependencies?

thanks for your quick response. I have it running now. Just have a big problem with installing dssi-vst. when Before running make, I set the directories in the make file and I'm using the vstsdk2.4 but when I run make, I get this error only on dssi-vst-server.cpp:

wineg++ -m32 -I./vstsdk2.4/pluginterfaces/vst2.x -Wall -fPIC dssi-vst-server.cpp -o dssi-vst-server -L. -lremoteplugin.w32 -lpthread
/usr/bin/ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf64-x86-64 (/usr/lib64/wine/libwinecrt0.a(exe_entry.o)) to format elf32-i386 (dssi-vst-server.khOzyk.o) is not supported
winebuild: /usr/bin/ld failed with status 1
winegcc: winebuild failed
make: *** [dssi-vst-server.exe.so] Error 2

Everything before that had no problems with the linking so it doesn't make any sense to me. Here is my make file:


DSSIDIR = /usr/lib64/dssi
LADSPADIR = /usr/lib64/ladspa
BINDIR = /usr/local/bin

# To compile with the VeSTige compatibility header:
#CXXFLAGS = -Ivestige -Wall -fPIC

# To compile with the official VST SDK v2.4r2:
CXXFLAGS = -I./vstsdk2.4/pluginterfaces/vst2.x -Wall -fPIC

LDFLAGS =

TARGETS = dssi-vst-server.exe.so \
dssi-vst-scanner.exe.so \
dssi-vst.so \
dssi-vst_gui \
vsthost

HEADERS = remoteplugin.h \
remotepluginclient.h \
remotepluginserver.h \
remotevstclient.h \
rdwrops.h \
paths.h

OBJECTS = remotevstclient.o \
remotepluginclient.o \
remotepluginserver.o \
rdwrops.o \
paths.o

OBJECTS_W32 = remotepluginclient.w32.o \
remotepluginserver.w32.o \
rdwrops.w32.o \
paths.w32.o

all: $(TARGETS)

install: all
mkdir -p $(DSSIDIR)/dssi-vst
mkdir -p $(LADSPADIR)
mkdir -p $(BINDIR)
install dssi-vst.so $(DSSIDIR)
install dssi-vst.so $(LADSPADIR)
install dssi-vst-server.exe.so dssi-vst-server dssi-vst-scanner.exe.so dssi-vst-scanner dssi-vst_gui $(DSSIDIR)/dssi-vst
install vsthost $(BINDIR)

clean:
rm -f $(OBJECTS) $(OBJECTS_W32) libremoteplugin.a libremoteplugin.w32.a

distclean: clean
rm -f $(TARGETS) dssi-vst-scanner dssi-vst-server *~ *.bak

%.exe.so: %.cpp libremoteplugin.w32.a $(HEADERS)
wineg++ -m32 $(CXXFLAGS) $< -o $* $(LDFLAGS) -L. -lremoteplugin.w32 -lpthread

libremoteplugin.a: remotepluginclient.o remotepluginserver.o rdwrops.o paths.o
ar r $@ $^

libremoteplugin.w32.a: remotepluginclient.w32.o remotepluginserver.w32.o rdwrops.w32.o paths.w32.o
ar r $@ $^

%.w32.o: %.cpp $(HEADERS)
wineg++ -m32 $(CXXFLAGS) $< -c -o $@

%.o: %.cpp $(HEADERS)
g++ $(CXXFLAGS) $< -c

dssi-vst.so: dssi-vst.cpp libremoteplugin.a remotevstclient.o $(HEADERS)
g++ -shared -Wl,-Bsymbolic -g3 $(CXXFLAGS) -o dssi-vst.so dssi-vst.cpp remotevstclient.o $(LDFLAGS) -L. -lremoteplugin -lasound

vsthost: vsthost.cpp libremoteplugin.a remotevstclient.o $(HEADERS)
g++ $(CXXFLAGS) vsthost.cpp remotevstclient.o -o vsthost $(LDFLAGS) -L. -lremoteplugin -ljack -lasound -lpthread

dssi-vst_gui: dssi-vst_gui.cpp rdwrops.h
g++ $(CXXFLAGS) dssi-vst_gui.cpp rdwrops.o -o dssi-vst_gui $(LDFLAGS) -llo

Any ideas of what I can do to get this working? I got some VSTi's I would really like to be able to use... I might never login to windows again after this!

Hello Rai Nuno Capela,
While searching for a linux-native 'long term replacement' for (wined) REAPER (as I use several Win-VSTs), I played around with QTRACTOR today.
I encountered a similar problem as StoneCut - whenever I go to View > Options > Plugins and look around for the (dssi-vst wrapped) DSSI plugins, none are listed. Pointing the dialog to my vst directory (/home/[user]/vst = standard search path) won't help. Neither does reloading the session, restarting QTRACTOR, logging off/on again.
FUNNY thing is:
If I add a new track and (right click) for the tracks' properties, opening plugins' tab, all my (dssi-vst wrapped) Win Vst plugins are existant and choosable :)
I can add which ever I like - all works fine and as expected then!
Again: I can use all my plugins and they work as expected - they simply do not show in the View > Options > Plugins dialog, no matter whatever I do.
So there seems to be a bug /problem in QTRACTOR's communication with dssi-vst?!?

qtractor version is 0.5.3-1 (from Debian testing repo)
dssi-vst version is 0.9.2-1 (from Debian sid repo)
wine version is 1.4~rc1-0.1 (from WineHq, compiled for Debian sid)
system is running 3.2.0-4.dmz.1-liquorix-686 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT i686 GNU/Linux
$VST_PATH is set (to /home/[user]/vst - which is correct)
dssi_list_plugins -v gives the whole bunch of plugins:
warning: DSSI_PATH not set, defaulting to '/usr/local/lib/dssi:/usr/lib/dssi'
-- warning: couldn't open DSSI_PATH directory element '/usr/local/lib/dssi'
-- scanning directory /usr/lib/dssi
/usr/lib/dssi/dssi-vst.so
RemoteVSTClient: all cache files are up-to-date, not running scanner
mda*Leslie.dll mda Leslie.dll VST
mda*TestTone.dll mda TestTone.dll VST
mda*SubSynth.dll mda SubSynth.dll VST
mda*Degrade.dll mda Degrade.dll VST
[...]
...and so on, and so forth...

Even invoking dssi-vst-scanner manually or renaming some vst .dll to force a rescan do not change anything for qtractor.

Anyway, I appreciate your program and will test it out a little further the next days :)

Cheers, Chris

Hello again

and thanks for your fast reply and the given clarification -
I really misunderstood that View > Options > Plugins dialog, thinking it would show the plugins found in those given pathes.

And, no, I haven't misunderstood the mechanism of dssi-vst. I do know dssi-vst-scanner(.exe(.so)) scans for Win32-VST plugins (.dll) libraries in $VST_PATH, as I have written this explicitly in my last post.

Two more questions I have (if I may) -
I used to patch dssi.h /dssi-vst-0.9 with aderyabins chunk patches (works well with REAPER and MusE -I actually try on a local build which merges recent rt patch code (from koppis github branch), too) - do you know of any problems /isssues concerning the use of QTRACTOR with chunks-patched dssi-vst (yet)?
(I'll try this the next days..)

Second - is there a way to merge /dock the 'Mixer' window into the main window (as a 'child window'), as this can be done with the 'Messages' and the 'Files' dislplay (I haven't looked into your code yet)?

Regards, Chris